SENATOR JOHN FAULKNER
Minister for Defence
Wednesday, 9 June 2010
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INTERVIEW: 3AW RADIO DERRYN HINCH DRIVE PROGRAM
Topics: Afghanistan
Reporter: John Faulkner Good Afternoon. This is a terrible time, and look I dont want
to put this in a bad way, but Ive suddenly realised what the cost has been for all the
other troops there too, NATO troops, a little breakdown weve lost, the Canadians
have lost more than 140 men, Italys lost 24, of course the United States has lost more
than a thousand. Its a huge price thats been paid there over the years.
Senator Faulkner: There certainly is a very significant cost. The cost of human life is
incalculable when you think of the families that are affected. But of course I think that
we always have to understand the critical importance of what Australian and other
NATO and non-NATO countries who are involved in the ISAF forces in Afghanistan are
doing. Australia is one of 46 international partners operating under a UN mandate in
Afghanistan and the work thats being done there under that UN mandate to ensure that
country returns to security and stability and doesnt again become a training ground and
safe haven for terrorists is something that is absolutely of critical importance to Australia
and the rest of the international community.
Reporter: It is true that Al Qaeda has suffered some heavy losses over the recent
months as a result of those drone planes in Afghanistan and also in Pakistan. Several
top leaders have been killed there. But how long can Australia stay? President Obama
is talking about withdrawing within the year. Do we follow their yardstick or their
timetable? What happens?
Senator Faulkner: President Obama has spoken of a transition to Afghan responsibility
for security commencing in the middle of next year. Ive been asked this often as you
can imagine and Ive consistently reiterated the best advice that weve had from our
Australian Defence leadership, that is that Australias operational objective in
Afghanistan, that is to train, mentor and partner the Afghan National Army fourth
brigade in Oruzgan province will be completed in some three to five years. This is of
course the critical objective.
Reporter: So we are there for another five years?
Senator Faulkner: No. Well Im obviously hopeful that it will be complete in three
years, then wed look at
Reporter: So are we looking at three years?
Senator Faulkner: I think we can say that our task to train the ANA fourth brigade, so it
will be responsible for itself, for security and stability in the Oruzgan province in
Afghanistan will take that period of time and after thats completed - which is why weve
used terminology like three to five years - Im sure therell be some remaining overwatch
responsibilities after that task is completed.
Reporter: So when I say, weve been there eight years and we could be there for
another eight years, thats not far fetched?
Senator Faulkner: I think that would be inaccurate, I believe that we will have
completed our task, which is train the ANA fourth brigade in between three and five
years.
Reporter: Ok fair enough,
Senator Faulkner:
and I cant give you any better timing that that, because thats
what the Australian Defence Force leadership have consistently said. Obviously, that
doesnt mean eight years, it means at least three years and there will be some residual
responsibilities for Australia I believe once that task is completed, but this is not only of
course a role for the Australian military. Were also engaged in development assistance
and other civilian support in Aghanistan as well and I dont think that anyone would think
that Australias responsibilities would just end overnight. Im sure that Australia will
continue to provide that sort of development aid and assistance over the longer term to
Afghanistan.
Reporter: Alright Senator Faulkner, I thank you for your time.
Senator Faulkner: Thank you very much.
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